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: i got a problem with my modem connnection, using winsock.dll and, for
: example mosaic for ms-windows.
: whenever i try to dial in to my university and try to get a SLIP connection,
: i get back a new IP - and nothing else happens
: so, how can i establish a SLIP connection when there is no more respionse
: by my termional server ??
: if the reason where easy to solve , please let me know
: i use trumpet winsock.dll

: thank you very much for any suggestions , marcus polke.
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From: [e-mail] (Dick Montgomery)
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Subject: Re: New Xwindemo?

Version 2.8.7 has been released this week.  We have not placed a new
xwindemo.zip onto the ftp site.  That will likely happen on Friday.
We will place it into the uploads section of winftp.cica.indiana.edu.

New features:
        Implementation of $DISPLAY and $MYIP as variables for use
        in creating X-Win sessions.  This will be especially helpful
        at those sites which dynamically allocate I.P. addresses.

        New .kbd files with much better intl kybd support.  The compose
        key function has been added.

        The F10 key goes to X and not MS Windows.

        The right ALT key goes to X, the left alt key goes to MS Windows.

        Making icons to start sessions.

        64K colors works.  (xv still has a problem which makes it appear
        to have a problem.)


The bad news it that the double byte fonts did not make it into this release.
It will be included in the next release.  We will be adding active icon support
also.

Thanks,
Dick Montgomery
StarNet Communications
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From: [e-mail] (Paul Noble)
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Subject: Re: NCSA Mosaic v2.0alpha4


I just downloaded WinMosaic 2.0a4 and it seems to have fixed at least the most
obvious bugs. I can now reliably play sound clips. Unlike some earlier posters,
I could sometime play sound files with WPLANY.

The scrolling feature for multiple screen documents does not cause overprinting
the way 2.0a3 did.

Printing seems to work a little better, although it still does not do inline
images (but then they said it didn't). With 2.0a3, I could not print very well
at all.

All in all, it seems to be a much more stable program. Its still a little too
early to tell, but it looks like this one's a keeper!


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From [e-mail] Wed Apr  9 20:32:24 1994
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From: [e-mail] (HB Papaleonardos)
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Subject: Dynamically Assigned Address Server, anyone?

Our university's CISCO terminal servers assign SLIP 'clients' a machine
name "slipX-YY.acs.ohio-state.edu" and an equally generic IP address.
These addresses change EACH TIME you call the server and activate SLIP,
so you never know what your IP address will be.  You can find out easily
once you connect, but then you have tell everyone who you think might
want to initiate a talk with you, FTP to your machine, etc., which is no
fun at all.  The important point is that there's no non-interactive way
for fellow users to tell what machine I, username HPAPALEO, am attached
to.

I was thinking of ways to deal with this problem.  What first came to
mind was changing the last line of my .plan to say
"slip1-36.acs.ohio-state.edu" or what have you, and sending all my
friends a tiny script to tail the output of a "finger hpapaleo" command.
It seemed simple at first, but it's actually horrid.  I need to have
an automated program to telnet to my shell account, navigate the login
process, and run a command to modify my .plan file.  I would also
need to run a program to wipe the last line of the .plan file on
termination of the SLIP session (which probably would not executed
very often, anyway.)  My friends who also use SLIP would have to login
just to run my little 'wheres-hpapaleo' command to find my address.
Plus, in the future, ACS may no longer have shell accounts, but only
SLIP accounts, so this wouldn't work at all.  Blech.

What I thought of next is a sort of dynamic nameserver.  Here's how it
works:

0.  There is a DAAServer running on some friendly network machine,
a machine which will stay around long after there are no more shell
accounts for ACS users.

1.  I log in, and run an application which informs the DAAServer of
my login, presents it with my username, machine name and IP address.
Some authentication is done.

2.  A buddy wants to get something from my FTP server.  He asks the
DAAServer, "Where's HPAPALEO?"  It responds, "128.46.xxx.xx,
slip1-36.acs.ohio-state.edu", or "HPAPALEO is not connected."

3.  I prepare to log out by running another application which tells
DAAServer, "HPAPALEO says Bye-bye."  My entry is zapped out of it's
database.

    The only unsatisfactory elements are parts 1 and 3.  I don't
think Trumpet Winsock supports automatic running of programs on
login and bye, but it might.  It would be better if the CISCO's software
could be taught to tell DAAServer about logins/logouts automatically
(for readers from ACS, I think that the CISCO server is already cozy
with the MAGNUS group, because it knows our usernames and passwords,
and I think that when they're changed on MAGNUS, the server knows
already.  Probably the DAAServer would run on Truth to start).
This is more of a SLIP question now, but there don't seem to be any
other appropriate groups.

    I see this as a good solution to what is probably going to
be a growing problem, as long as SLIP servers which assign addresses
dynamically are being set up.  Would anyone like to volunteer for
design of:

A. the info-request protocol?
B. the info-update protocol?
C. the DAAServer software (probably Unix host)
D. info-request software for Winsock? (or for other platforms)
E. Info-update protocol for Winsock?
F. All of the above? (WOW!)

    Actually, it doesn't seem that this should be too hard to
design.  All it needs is someone familiar with Winsock programming
and daemons on networked Unix systems.  I'd do it myself, if I had
the time to learn that stuff--but if it can be done sooner and better...

    Comments? (this has already been done, hopefully? ;)  I'm
eager to help.

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From: Martin Bickford <[e-mail]>
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Looking for Visual Basic on Winsock.  I know Distinct has a dev
kit, are there any others?  Visual C++ would be interesting also.

thanks

Marty Bickford